This interview was with Courtney Wren-Mabbutt, Masters of Clinical Social Work. She is a therapist offering services in Nelson and Winlaw, British Columbia. She works with individuals, couples, children, and families. She is registered with the BC College of Social Workers. She provides Somatic Psychotherapy offering an embodied-relational approach to healing. She is trained in Somatic Experiencing, Mindfulness, Attachment/ Relational therapy, Systemic/ Family Constellations, Nature Based Healing/Shamanism and EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization & Reprocessing). This particular conversation was about Systemic/Family Constellations.